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November 08, 2004

The State Of The Mets Part 1


With Baseball's Winter Meetings upon us and a new General Manager and Field Manager already in the fold, I find that now is as good a time as any to take a step back and reflect on the current state of the New York Mets.

The Mets are coming off of their third consecutive terrible season, the most recent of which found them in fourth (FOURTH!) place in their division after two straight last-place finishes. In one of those seasons (2003), Ty Wigginton led the team in OPS with .714 (among those who qualified for the batting title; Cliff Floyd had an OPS of .896 in only 365 at-bats). .714! Needless to say, things have been pretty bleak.

That's not to say that there haven't been flashes of hope. Jose Reyes has been exciting if not overwhelmingly productive when he hasn't been riddled with injuries. David Wright looked like the real deal in 2003, but then again Jason Phillips had a .373 OBP in 2003 (.298 in 2004). Unfortunately, those flashes of hope have been tempered by cavernous gorges of plight.

The Mets are on their third manager and general manager in the last three years, which echoes the overall instability of the franchise itself. That instability runs to the core, with owner Fred Wilpon and COO Jeff Wilpon coming under fire recently, having been pinned with much of the blame for the oft-embarrassing play of the team. Mets fans have long blamed ownership for becoming too meddlesome in the baseball operations department while holding nothing resembling a baseball pedigree save Fred's relationship with pitching great Sandy Koufax.

The Wilpon's claim to have had no say in baseball matters, though the truth probably lies somewhere in between. A similar problem involving several Mets players has been bandied about, with Al Leiter, Tom Glavine, and John Franco said to have had too much influence on personnel decisions. The players claim otherwise, though Leiter has been known to oblige management when asked for his opinions on such matters. The truth is probably that none of these players were proactive about having their voices considered, but were more than willing to contribute when approached.

The aggregate of all of these issues is that the face of the Mets front office had become so muddied that it was very difficult to discern who was actually in charge. When Steve Phillips was fired in the Summer of 2003, Jim Duquette was promoted largely because the Wilpon's couldn't get someone they desired more. The Duke became the general manager, and "autonomy" became the newest buzzword surrounding the Mets. The question of whether The Duke actually had full autonomy was debated among Mets columnists, bloggers, and even casual fans. The consensus was that, no, Duquette most likely did not actually have full autonomy. He may have come up with plans and ideas for trades and signings, but the belief was that he had to bounce those ideas off of countless others, including the Wilpons, the SuperScouts, possibly even players.

Regardless of how wide the chasm was between perception and reality, the perception was that there was an internal power struggle, and the reality was that Jim Duquette was being demoted. Enter Omar Minaya, formerly Steve Phillips' assistant and most recently GM of the lame duck Montreal Expos. The company line was that Minaya, not Duquette, was the man Fred Wilpon wanted all along to steer his ship. Minaya's first job was to find a replacement for Art Howe, who struggled to connect with the New York media and his players, and eventually became a lame duck himself before being relieved of his duties as the 2004 season drew to a close.

Speculation ran rampant through Metland as everybody and his uncle had his own preference for the next Mets manager. Weeks of speculation reached an abrupt climax when Willie Randolph, long-considered to be the frontrunner for the job, was named the Mets newest manager. Now, Queens-native Omar Minaya and Brooklyn-native Willie Randolph were given the daunting task of turning the Mets into winners.

That brings us to the present. Where do the Mets go from here? I'll talk more about that tomorrow.


Comments

where is part 2?

Posted by: Gene - November 11, 2004 at 10:05 AM EST

sign Mientkiewicz!!
from last spring at the very savvy
Aaron Gleeman

Strictly going by offensive contributions, Mientkiewicz hit .300/.393/.450 in 142 games last year. That was good for ninth among all major league first basemen in Runs Above Replacement Position (RARP), 10th in Value Over Replacement Position (VORP), and eighth in Runs Created Above Position (RCAP)

Defensive contributions are much harder to quantify. Mientkiewicz is, according to just about anyone you could ask and any defensive metric you can find, a phenomenal defensive first baseman. In fact, in my opinion he is the best defensive first baseman I have ever seen.

- Diamond-Mind has given Mientkiewicz their highest possible rating - "Excellent" - for each of the past three seasons.

- Mitchel's Lichtman's Ultimate Zone Rating (UZR) system ranks Mientkiewicz #2 among all first basemen since 2000, just slightly behind Todd Helton (another outstanding defender).

- David Pinto's Probabilistic Model of Range (it could use a catchier name, but it's a very good system) ranked Mientkiewicz #3 among everyday first basemen last season.

- Baseball Prospectus shows Mientkiewicz as 58 Fielding Runs Above Replacement (FRAR) over the last three years.

I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. If you have a top-10 offensive first baseman and he is an elite defensive first baseman, doesn't that make him a damn good player?

Bill James' Win Shares is one of the few metrics that attempts to put together both offense and defense. Using Win Shares, Mientkiewicz ranked third among AL first basemen (behind only Carlos Delgado and Jason Giambi) and eighth among all major league first basemen last year.

Using Dave Studemund of BaseballGraphs.com's Wins Shares Above Replacement (which I happen to think is an extremely good stat, much better than raw Win Shares), Mientkiewicz checks in at 11.6 WSAR. That once again ranks him third in the AL and eighth overall.

So, essentially, Mientkiewicz was probably about the eighth-best first baseman in all of baseball last year. Of course, he wasn't nearly as good in 2002, when he hit just .261/.365/.392. He was, however, similarly effective in 2001, hitting .306/.387/.464 while providing his always-outstanding defense.

Basically, Mientkiewicz has been a top-10 first baseman in two of the last three years, with a horrible offensive season sandwiched in-between.

Having watched him play nearly every game of his entire career, I feel confident that Mientkiewicz's true ability is a whole lot closer to his 2001 and 2003 numbers than his 2002 numbers. Which is another way of saying I feel like he's a legit top-10 first baseman.

Is a guy who hits .306/.387/.464 (in 2001) or .300/.393/.450 (in 2003) while playing Gold Glove-caliber defense worth $2.8 million in 2004 and $3.75 million in both 2005 and 2006? Even on a team with a payroll that will likely remain under $60 million for that entire time, I think the answer is yes.

Posted by: andrew - November 12, 2004 at 04:21 AM EST

Are you sure Mientkiewicz is a free agent? Mientkiewicz signed a 2 yr deal February 16th, 2004 with Minnesota with a club option for a third year. Yes, I agree, Mientkiewicz is one of the most underrated players at his position and that is precisely why Theo went out and got him at the July deadline last year. If we could pry him away from Boston (highly unlikely given his reasonable contract 2.8 mill/yr and good output)I would LOVE to get him. But we probably don't have the pieces Epstein and Red Sox Nation wants to get Mientkiewicz. From what I understand, the Sox need starting and releif pitching and catching for next season and we don't have a reasonable chip to offer (who really wants an overpaid, over the hill Glavine or Mike Stanton anyway)?

As far as available free agents: I love some big names like Tino, Brad Fullmer, and Olerud. Though Olerud and Tino Martinez are pretty old and could only be 1 year solutions.

And some not as big names: Robert Fick (career .329 obp, 180 bb, 287 ks in 1800 abs), Dave Hansen (career .365 obp, 274 bb, 315 ks in 1700 ab), Travis Lee [if healthy] (.340 obp, 380 bb, 565 ks, 92 hrs in 2993 abs)

Posted by: Gene - November 12, 2004 at 09:46 AM EST

Minky is most definitely not a free agent. According to DugoutDollars (see sidebar link), Minky is due to make $3.5 million this year in the second year of a two-year deal.

I'll try to get part 2 of the State of the Mets up as soon as I can.

Posted by: Eric Simon - November 12, 2004 at 10:51 AM EST

can someone explain to me the logic behind trading Reyes for Soriano?

Soriano has never had a season with more than 38 walks, and has never had an obp higher than .338 (career .323 obp). yes, soriano is fast, athletic and has power. but so do a bunch of guys who hit at the ballpark in arlingotn.

soriano also has a pesky gb/fly ball ratio of .80 for his career indicating that he's a fly ball hitter and fly ball hitters go to shea to die. im not saying soriano is a bad player (avgs around 30 hrs a year) and hits for average (but low obp). but his strikeout numbers are mike cameron levels of bad- 157-130-121 in the last 3 years alone and 551 for his career (only 124 bbs). is this really a franchise player?

jose reyes has tremendous trade value right now and although reyes is not a statistically great player, he has a pretty broad market appeal among major league scouts. reyes has arguably better speed than soriano and has a higher career stolen base .87 in 37 attempts vrs .77 in 180 attempts for soriano.

the two seem to be very similar players- good speed, high strikeouts, low walks. fonzie has some more power, while reyes has more speed and a lot more youth. yeah, reyes has that injury thing, but soriano has that error-prone, unwilling to play the outfield thing....

so someone please explain to me what the mets higher ups are thinking and don't even get me started on sosa and his gravy train contract that has 3 years left on it.

Posted by: Gene - November 12, 2004 at 05:12 PM EST

I love the idea of the Mets going after Mientkiewicz, and I think they can come up with a package to get him, too. Something along the lines of Heilman or Seo plus Jason Phillips and a minor league reliever could be enough to get the job done. Problem is, I've heard that the Sox are more likely to shop Kevin Millar than they are Mientkiewicz.

As far as the rest of what's available goes, Fullmer is a guy that the Mets could probably get for peanuts, considering he made just $1 million last season and had a woeful year. But he doesn't exactly fit the bill in terms of the defensive-minded first baseman the Mets are reportedly looking for. He'd be a nice bat to have on the bench, but I don't know if I'd want him playing every day

As for Tino and Olerud, if the pickin's are slim enough that the Mets are considering going for one of those two, I'd just as soon see them give Craig Brazell a shot, with Valent and maybe a Fullmer type waiting in the wings in case he falls flat on his face.

Posted by: Vinny - November 12, 2004 at 05:25 PM EST

First off, I think your Part One was excellent, but from a historical perspective, it needs to include the mid-season trades that were Duquette's true downfall, particularly Kazmir. He rolled the dice on a pennant run, and the Mets rolled over on him within the week.

Mienkiewitz doesn't do much for me. We were 14th out of 16 NL teams in hits in 2004. Minky hit, what, about .240 in Boston with no power? Eric Valent had better offensive numbers in 2004. And we'd have to trade something to get him? I'd rather get an Aubrey Huff or a Richie Sexson for that important power position. Or put Cliff Floyd there, who is only 31 and came up as a first baseman. He could blossom in 2005 at the plate with the wear and tear of flopping around left field off him. There are plenty of corner OF FAs there to fill in.

Also...if the Mets move Piazza, I'd like to see us land Jason Kendall from the Pirates. He is there for the taking due to his contract, and that is exactly the kind of guy we ought to be using our big market muscle to land. All he did last year was bat about .319 and he brings speed as well.

Posted by: m2c2c2 - November 13, 2004 at 08:17 PM EST

Some ways to earn money in Businness ...

Posted by: alc3r - January 12, 2005 at 05:00 PM EST

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