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January 21, 2005

Cameron for Ibanez?


Will asked an interesting question in the comments yesterday:
What about Seattle? Do you see any likelihood that Cameron could wind up back there. They could use a CF, although they are close to their payroll limit. What could Seattle offer the Mets? How do the numbers look with a Raul Ibañez and (put another name here) trade?
Kudos on including the eñe with Ibañez' name, by the way. Cameron would probably love to go back to Seattle, but I don't know if the Mets are really interested. Ibanez had a suprising season with the Mariners, hitting .304/.353/.472 in a terrible hitters park. Surprising to me at least, since I didn't think he was any good.

He's an above-average fielder (UZR of +6/162 games from 2000-2003). Offensively, he posted a higher VORP than Cameron last year (30.1 to 27.0). Given a similar offensive season in 2005, Cameron's VORP would stand to decrease for the Mets as he would be playing right field instead of center.

They are the same age (32, with Ibanez older by six months), and Ibanez is a couple million dollars cheaper. The two differences as I see it are that Cameron probably holds a slight edge offensively, at least for the Mets, with the better power numbers and stolen bases. He brings a huge advantage defensively, where he's probably a win or two better than Ibanez with the glove.

I expect that Cameron will have a better season offensively in 2005, considering his hand and wrist and toe bothered him for much of the year. I don't think it's outlandish to suggest that he is worth two wins over Raul Ibanez. If that's the case, then I would much rather have those wins than the $2 million the Mets would save by making the trade. $1 million for a win is a number the Mets would gladly spend.


Comments

ok I know that there seems to be this urgency to ship Cameron out but for Raul Ibanez? This guy is a very eratic hitter... I would rather see him go to a team who needs a CF and is willing to give up a prospect. Floyd lookd to stay and Beltran will play CF. If Cameron is shipped out, we do not need Ibanez to play RF. Victor Diaz can play that position if Cmaeron leaves. He might even start there opening day since Cameron is hurt. This kids carries a bat and since converting from 2nd to RF he has shown continual growth. Last I checked his winter ball numbers were good even though he was riding the bench. Give the kid a shot, pocket some money by trading Cameron amd dealing with minimal financial tieups. This is also a key if the Mets want ot sign Delgado and stay away from a heavier luxury tax

Posted by: Chris Courchaine - January 25, 2005 at 02:44 PM EST

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